Work From Home Credentialed Tax Expert Cpa - Intuit Overview If you are a highly motivated individual with an active unrestricted credential (CPA/EA/Practicing Attorney) and excellent communication skills, we need you to help our customers complete their taxes using Intuit TurboTax products. You will advance our goal of ?Powering Prosperity Around the World? by providing expert guidance and explanations of tax and technical terms to our customers. You will also play an important role in our effort to enhance our brand by delighting our customers and empowering them to prepare their taxes. What you'll bring Must possess active unrestricted credential: EA (Enrolled Agent), CPA (Certified Public Accountant), or Practicing Attorney with strong tax preparation experience and extensive knowledge of tax laws Must possess or be able to obtain any related State licenses, certificates, permits or bonds Must possess active PTIN (Preparer Tax Identification Number) 3 or more years of recent...
Oct 30, 2020
Work From Home Credentialed Tax Expert Cpa - Intuit Overview If you are a highly motivated individual with an active unrestricted credential (CPA/EA/Practicing Attorney) and excellent communication skills, we need you to help our customers complete their taxes using Intuit TurboTax products. You will advance our goal of ?Powering Prosperity Around the World? by providing expert guidance and explanations of tax and technical terms to our customers. You will also play an important role in our effort to enhance our brand by delighting our customers and empowering them to prepare their taxes. What you'll bring Must possess active unrestricted credential: EA (Enrolled Agent), CPA (Certified Public Accountant), or Practicing Attorney with strong tax preparation experience and extensive knowledge of tax laws Must possess or be able to obtain any related State licenses, certificates, permits or bonds Must possess active PTIN (Preparer Tax Identification Number) 3 or more years of recent...
Tax Professional Cpa Work From Home - Intuit Overview If you are a highly motivated individual with an active unrestricted credential (CPA/EA/Practicing Attorney) and excellent communication skills, we need you to help our customers complete their taxes using Intuit TurboTax products. You will advance our goal of ?Powering Prosperity Around the World? by providing expert guidance and explanations of tax and technical terms to our customers. You will also play an important role in our effort to enhance our brand by delighting our customers and empowering them to prepare their taxes. What you'll bring Must possess active unrestricted credential: EA (Enrolled Agent), CPA (Certified Public Accountant), or Practicing Attorney with strong tax preparation experience and extensive knowledge of tax laws Must possess or be able to obtain any related State licenses, certificates, permits or bonds Must possess active PTIN (Preparer Tax Identification Number) 3 or more years of recent experience...
Oct 30, 2020
Tax Professional Cpa Work From Home - Intuit Overview If you are a highly motivated individual with an active unrestricted credential (CPA/EA/Practicing Attorney) and excellent communication skills, we need you to help our customers complete their taxes using Intuit TurboTax products. You will advance our goal of ?Powering Prosperity Around the World? by providing expert guidance and explanations of tax and technical terms to our customers. You will also play an important role in our effort to enhance our brand by delighting our customers and empowering them to prepare their taxes. What you'll bring Must possess active unrestricted credential: EA (Enrolled Agent), CPA (Certified Public Accountant), or Practicing Attorney with strong tax preparation experience and extensive knowledge of tax laws Must possess or be able to obtain any related State licenses, certificates, permits or bonds Must possess active PTIN (Preparer Tax Identification Number) 3 or more years of recent experience...
Work From Home Credentialed Tax Accountant - Intuit Overview If you are a highly motivated individual with an active unrestricted credential (CPA/EA/Practicing Attorney) and excellent communication skills, we need you to help our customers complete their taxes using Intuit TurboTax products. You will advance our goal of ?Powering Prosperity Around the World? by providing expert guidance and explanations of tax and technical terms to our customers. You will also play an important role in our effort to enhance our brand by delighting our customers and empowering them to prepare their taxes. What you'll bring Must possess active unrestricted credential: EA (Enrolled Agent), CPA (Certified Public Accountant), or Practicing Attorney with strong tax preparation experience and extensive knowledge of tax laws Must possess or be able to obtain any related State licenses, certificates, permits or bonds Must possess active PTIN (Preparer Tax Identification Number) 3 or more years of recent...
Oct 30, 2020
Work From Home Credentialed Tax Accountant - Intuit Overview If you are a highly motivated individual with an active unrestricted credential (CPA/EA/Practicing Attorney) and excellent communication skills, we need you to help our customers complete their taxes using Intuit TurboTax products. You will advance our goal of ?Powering Prosperity Around the World? by providing expert guidance and explanations of tax and technical terms to our customers. You will also play an important role in our effort to enhance our brand by delighting our customers and empowering them to prepare their taxes. What you'll bring Must possess active unrestricted credential: EA (Enrolled Agent), CPA (Certified Public Accountant), or Practicing Attorney with strong tax preparation experience and extensive knowledge of tax laws Must possess or be able to obtain any related State licenses, certificates, permits or bonds Must possess active PTIN (Preparer Tax Identification Number) 3 or more years of recent...
Job Description Job Title: Seasonal Licensed Advisor (Call Center - REMOTE) Location: Headquarters:- 1801 Liberty Dr # 100, Bloomington, IN 47403 - REMOTE position Reports to: FMO Telesales Manager Department/Team: Advise Sales Pay: $21.00 per hour Advise is a Medicare focused insurance agency that serves as a trusted advisor to seniors seeking to understand their Medicare insurance options and enroll in the best health plan for their needs. Advise simplifies the Medicare insurance experience for both patients and physicians and empowers seniors to make confident decisions regarding their Medicare insurance. With the partnership of our parent company, Bloom Insurance, we are growing, and we are transforming the healthcare industry through our sales automation technology and education, ensuring doctors are free to deliver the care seniors deserve. We are a company built on excellence. We have a culture that values growth, achievement and diversity and a workplace where hard...
Oct 30, 2020
Job Description Job Title: Seasonal Licensed Advisor (Call Center - REMOTE) Location: Headquarters:- 1801 Liberty Dr # 100, Bloomington, IN 47403 - REMOTE position Reports to: FMO Telesales Manager Department/Team: Advise Sales Pay: $21.00 per hour Advise is a Medicare focused insurance agency that serves as a trusted advisor to seniors seeking to understand their Medicare insurance options and enroll in the best health plan for their needs. Advise simplifies the Medicare insurance experience for both patients and physicians and empowers seniors to make confident decisions regarding their Medicare insurance. With the partnership of our parent company, Bloom Insurance, we are growing, and we are transforming the healthcare industry through our sales automation technology and education, ensuring doctors are free to deliver the care seniors deserve. We are a company built on excellence. We have a culture that values growth, achievement and diversity and a workplace where hard...
Ignite Mental Health
Remote * (Bloomington, MN, USA)
Do you want to improve the world? Have you ever wondered what it would be like to learn and grow at a world-changing organization just as they started growing rapidly? Excited by the opportunity to power world-class entrepreneurs and Changemakers as they work to positively impact the lives of 100,000's & 1,000,000's? At Ignite Mental Health we're accelerating world-class mental health entrepreneurs and mobilizing key change agents to catalyze the scalable innovations and legislative changes needed to transform the future of student mental health literacy and access. Using this approach, we're working to make the impossible inevitable; helping build and scale lasting legislative changes and breakthrough organizations to be as impactful as Google and Facebook that focus solely on equipping every student with a standard measure of mental health literacy and access. All of us at Ignite have experienced first-hand, or through that of loved ones and friends, the pain caused by how...
Oct 30, 2020
Part-Time
Do you want to improve the world? Have you ever wondered what it would be like to learn and grow at a world-changing organization just as they started growing rapidly? Excited by the opportunity to power world-class entrepreneurs and Changemakers as they work to positively impact the lives of 100,000's & 1,000,000's? At Ignite Mental Health we're accelerating world-class mental health entrepreneurs and mobilizing key change agents to catalyze the scalable innovations and legislative changes needed to transform the future of student mental health literacy and access. Using this approach, we're working to make the impossible inevitable; helping build and scale lasting legislative changes and breakthrough organizations to be as impactful as Google and Facebook that focus solely on equipping every student with a standard measure of mental health literacy and access. All of us at Ignite have experienced first-hand, or through that of loved ones and friends, the pain caused by how...
GP Strategies Corporation (NYSE: GPX)is a global performance improvement solutions provider of training, eLearningsolutions, management consulting and engineering services. GP Strategies'solutions improve the effectiveness of organizations by delivering innovativeand superior training, consulting and business improvement services, customizedto meet the specific needs of its clients. Clients include Fortune 500companies, manufacturing, process and energy industries, and other commercialand government customers. Additional information may be found at www.gpstrategies.com Media Developers Job Summary: Designs andimplements multimedia applications, animations and graphics, andhigh-performance client/server application. Essential Dutiesand Responsibilities: Workcollaboratively with multidisciplinary team to design and develop highlyprofessional and engaging communication/training products according to theproject scope. Createweb/print graphics, animations, user interfaces,...
Oct 30, 2020
GP Strategies Corporation (NYSE: GPX)is a global performance improvement solutions provider of training, eLearningsolutions, management consulting and engineering services. GP Strategies'solutions improve the effectiveness of organizations by delivering innovativeand superior training, consulting and business improvement services, customizedto meet the specific needs of its clients. Clients include Fortune 500companies, manufacturing, process and energy industries, and other commercialand government customers. Additional information may be found at www.gpstrategies.com Media Developers Job Summary: Designs andimplements multimedia applications, animations and graphics, andhigh-performance client/server application. Essential Dutiesand Responsibilities: Workcollaboratively with multidisciplinary team to design and develop highlyprofessional and engaging communication/training products according to theproject scope. Createweb/print graphics, animations, user interfaces,...
GP Strategies Corporation (NYSE: GPX) is a global performance improvement solutions provider of training, eLearning solutions, management consulting and engineering services. GP Strategies' solutions improve the effectiveness of organizations by delivering innovative and superior training, consulting and business improvement services, customized to meet the specific needs of its clients. Clients include Fortune 500 companies, manufacturing, process and energy industries, and other commercial and government customers. Additional information may be found at www.gpstrategies.com. GP Strategies Global Learning Solutions group has on-going needs for all levels of Instructional Designers. We are always looking for great talent to work with our clients across various industries on a full-time basis. Key aspects of our Instructional Designer positions are to understand our clients' performance improvement needs, design effective training solutions within project budgets, lead the...
Oct 30, 2020
GP Strategies Corporation (NYSE: GPX) is a global performance improvement solutions provider of training, eLearning solutions, management consulting and engineering services. GP Strategies' solutions improve the effectiveness of organizations by delivering innovative and superior training, consulting and business improvement services, customized to meet the specific needs of its clients. Clients include Fortune 500 companies, manufacturing, process and energy industries, and other commercial and government customers. Additional information may be found at www.gpstrategies.com. GP Strategies Global Learning Solutions group has on-going needs for all levels of Instructional Designers. We are always looking for great talent to work with our clients across various industries on a full-time basis. Key aspects of our Instructional Designer positions are to understand our clients' performance improvement needs, design effective training solutions within project budgets, lead the...
Are you looking for a full time, work from home opportunity? Are you wanting to still make a difference in patients' lives while working from the comfort of your home? Our remote opportunities provide a structured, stable schedule in an exciting new industry, telehealth! This position allows you to gain experience in what is being considered the new wave of healthcare. Our patients are our priority and providing the best, quality of care, all while being remote, is only one of the many benefits of being a Care Coordinator for CareHarmony. We are specifically seeking LPN's in IL to join our team at this time. CareHarmony's Licensed Practical Nurses are experts in helping patients and caregivers navigate the healthcare system and better manage the patient's chronic illnesses. LPN Care Coordinators work cooperatively with the patient's providers to help achieve health goals. Position Details This is a telephonic coordinator position with no face-to-face patient contact. CareHarmony...
Oct 30, 2020
Are you looking for a full time, work from home opportunity? Are you wanting to still make a difference in patients' lives while working from the comfort of your home? Our remote opportunities provide a structured, stable schedule in an exciting new industry, telehealth! This position allows you to gain experience in what is being considered the new wave of healthcare. Our patients are our priority and providing the best, quality of care, all while being remote, is only one of the many benefits of being a Care Coordinator for CareHarmony. We are specifically seeking LPN's in IL to join our team at this time. CareHarmony's Licensed Practical Nurses are experts in helping patients and caregivers navigate the healthcare system and better manage the patient's chronic illnesses. LPN Care Coordinators work cooperatively with the patient's providers to help achieve health goals. Position Details This is a telephonic coordinator position with no face-to-face patient contact. CareHarmony...
Job Description Thomson Reuters is the world's leading source of intelligent information for businesses and professionals. Practical Law, a Thomson Reuters business, is a leading online provider of legal know-how. We help lawyers practice more efficiently and deliver greater value to clients. As a full-time Practical Law editor on our Trusts and Estates team, you will have the opportunity to apply your practical experience in a highly professional environment with other experienced attorneys. This is a dynamic job that allows you to fully utilize and continuously expand your skills and develop information and technology solutions. Our subscribers include most major international law firms and corporations, including approximately 85% of the Am Law 200, hundreds of small and mid-size firms and over 1,300 legal departments worldwide. About the Role In this opportunity as a Senior Associate Editor, you will: Work with Senior Legal Editors and contributing authors to edit and...
Oct 30, 2020
Job Description Thomson Reuters is the world's leading source of intelligent information for businesses and professionals. Practical Law, a Thomson Reuters business, is a leading online provider of legal know-how. We help lawyers practice more efficiently and deliver greater value to clients. As a full-time Practical Law editor on our Trusts and Estates team, you will have the opportunity to apply your practical experience in a highly professional environment with other experienced attorneys. This is a dynamic job that allows you to fully utilize and continuously expand your skills and develop information and technology solutions. Our subscribers include most major international law firms and corporations, including approximately 85% of the Am Law 200, hundreds of small and mid-size firms and over 1,300 legal departments worldwide. About the Role In this opportunity as a Senior Associate Editor, you will: Work with Senior Legal Editors and contributing authors to edit and...
Company Overview Dollar General Corporation has been delivering value to shoppers for more than 80 years. Dollar General helps shoppers Save time. Save money. Every day!® by offering products that are frequently used and replenished, such as food, snacks, health and beauty aids, cleaning supplies, basic apparel, housewares and seasonal items at everyday low prices in convenient neighborhood locations. Dollar General operated 16,720 stores in 46 states as of July 31, 2020. In addition to high-quality private brands, Dollar General sells products from America's most-trusted manufacturers such as Clorox, Energizer, Procter & Gamble, Hanes, Coca-Cola, Mars, Unilever, Nestle, Kimberly-Clark, Kellogg's, General Mills, and PepsiCo. Learn more about Dollar General at www.dollargeneral.com. Job Details GENERAL SUMMARY: Responsible for the management of and training for the execution of store merchandising for new store, relocation and remodel projects. DUTIES and ESSENTIAL...
Oct 30, 2020
Company Overview Dollar General Corporation has been delivering value to shoppers for more than 80 years. Dollar General helps shoppers Save time. Save money. Every day!® by offering products that are frequently used and replenished, such as food, snacks, health and beauty aids, cleaning supplies, basic apparel, housewares and seasonal items at everyday low prices in convenient neighborhood locations. Dollar General operated 16,720 stores in 46 states as of July 31, 2020. In addition to high-quality private brands, Dollar General sells products from America's most-trusted manufacturers such as Clorox, Energizer, Procter & Gamble, Hanes, Coca-Cola, Mars, Unilever, Nestle, Kimberly-Clark, Kellogg's, General Mills, and PepsiCo. Learn more about Dollar General at www.dollargeneral.com. Job Details GENERAL SUMMARY: Responsible for the management of and training for the execution of store merchandising for new store, relocation and remodel projects. DUTIES and ESSENTIAL...
Clarivate Analytics
Remote * (Bloomington, MN, USA)
Clarivate™ is a global leader in providing trusted information and insights to accelerate the pace of innovation. We offer subscription and technology-based solutions coupled with deep domain expertise that cover the entire lifecycle of innovation - from foundational research and ideas to protection and commercialization. Today, we're setting a trail-blazing course to help customers turn bold ideas into life-changing inventions. Our portfolio consists of some of the world's most trusted information brands, including the Web of Science™, Cortellis™, Derwent™, CompuMark™, MarkMonitor™ and Techstreet™. We employ 5,500 colleagues in more than 40 countries. Clarivate is a public company. We are listed on the New York Stock Exchange under the ticker NYSE:CCC. At Clarivate, we believe human ingenuity can transform the world and improve our future. That's why we harness our global reach, curate our content, and invest in best-in-class technology and people. Join the team...
Oct 29, 2020
Full-Time
Clarivate™ is a global leader in providing trusted information and insights to accelerate the pace of innovation. We offer subscription and technology-based solutions coupled with deep domain expertise that cover the entire lifecycle of innovation - from foundational research and ideas to protection and commercialization. Today, we're setting a trail-blazing course to help customers turn bold ideas into life-changing inventions. Our portfolio consists of some of the world's most trusted information brands, including the Web of Science™, Cortellis™, Derwent™, CompuMark™, MarkMonitor™ and Techstreet™. We employ 5,500 colleagues in more than 40 countries. Clarivate is a public company. We are listed on the New York Stock Exchange under the ticker NYSE:CCC. At Clarivate, we believe human ingenuity can transform the world and improve our future. That's why we harness our global reach, curate our content, and invest in best-in-class technology and people. Join the team...
Job Description Our Fortune 500 Healthcare client in the South Metro is looking for a dynamic detail oriented to join their team. Are you looking for a rewarding career and consider yourself an articulate, highly-skilled Customer Service Representative? If you have excellent communication skills and enjoy helping others, this is the perfect the position for you. Be prepared to come into a dynamic environment in this role. You will assist individuals that are looking for information on how to use their insurance coverage in regards to providers, educational resources, and other benefits coverage. This requires compassion, understanding and patience. If you have an interest in the healthcare industry, enjoy helping others, and want to work in a technically savvy office setting, this may be a great fit for you. This is a temporary-to-full-time opportunity with a reputable healthcare organization in the south metro. How you will make an impact: - Provide accurate, friendly customer...
Oct 29, 2020
Job Description Our Fortune 500 Healthcare client in the South Metro is looking for a dynamic detail oriented to join their team. Are you looking for a rewarding career and consider yourself an articulate, highly-skilled Customer Service Representative? If you have excellent communication skills and enjoy helping others, this is the perfect the position for you. Be prepared to come into a dynamic environment in this role. You will assist individuals that are looking for information on how to use their insurance coverage in regards to providers, educational resources, and other benefits coverage. This requires compassion, understanding and patience. If you have an interest in the healthcare industry, enjoy helping others, and want to work in a technically savvy office setting, this may be a great fit for you. This is a temporary-to-full-time opportunity with a reputable healthcare organization in the south metro. How you will make an impact: - Provide accurate, friendly customer...
Ignite Mental Health
Remote * (Bloomington, MN, USA)
Do you want to improve the world? Have you ever wondered what it would be like to get in at the ground level working at a world-changing organization just as they started growing rapidly? Excited by the opportunity to power world-class entrepreneurs and Changemakers as they work to positively impact the lives of 100,000's & 1,000,000's for decades to come? At Ignite Mental Health we're accelerating world-class mental health entrepreneurs and mobilizing students at scale to catalyze the scalable innovations and legislative changes needed to transform the future of student mental health literacy and access. Using this approach, we're working to make the impossible inevitable; helping build and scale lasting legislative changes and breakthrough organizations to be as impactful as Google and Facebook that focus solely on equipping every student with a standard measure of mental health literacy and access. Become a member of a mission-driven founding team that grew rapidly from...
Oct 29, 2020
Part-Time
Do you want to improve the world? Have you ever wondered what it would be like to get in at the ground level working at a world-changing organization just as they started growing rapidly? Excited by the opportunity to power world-class entrepreneurs and Changemakers as they work to positively impact the lives of 100,000's & 1,000,000's for decades to come? At Ignite Mental Health we're accelerating world-class mental health entrepreneurs and mobilizing students at scale to catalyze the scalable innovations and legislative changes needed to transform the future of student mental health literacy and access. Using this approach, we're working to make the impossible inevitable; helping build and scale lasting legislative changes and breakthrough organizations to be as impactful as Google and Facebook that focus solely on equipping every student with a standard measure of mental health literacy and access. Become a member of a mission-driven founding team that grew rapidly from...
Ignite Mental Health
Remote * (Bloomington, MN, USA)
** It would be appreciated if all emails/communications were directed to Ignite & not the Harvard Innovation Lab, Harvard Business School or Harvard University. Do you want to improve the world? Have you ever wondered what it would be like to join a driven, tight-knit community of highly talented peers at a world-changing organization just as they started growing rapidly? Excited by the opportunity to power world-class entrepreneurs and Changemakers as they work to positively impact the lives of 1,000's, 100,000's or 1,000,000's? At Ignite Mental Health we're accelerating world-class mental health entrepreneurs and mobilizing key change agents to catalyze the scalable innovations and legislative changes needed to transform the future of student mental health literacy and access. Using this approach, we're working to make the impossible inevitable; helping build and scale lasting legislative changes and breakthrough organizations to be as impactful as Google and Facebook that...
Oct 29, 2020
Part-Time
** It would be appreciated if all emails/communications were directed to Ignite & not the Harvard Innovation Lab, Harvard Business School or Harvard University. Do you want to improve the world? Have you ever wondered what it would be like to join a driven, tight-knit community of highly talented peers at a world-changing organization just as they started growing rapidly? Excited by the opportunity to power world-class entrepreneurs and Changemakers as they work to positively impact the lives of 1,000's, 100,000's or 1,000,000's? At Ignite Mental Health we're accelerating world-class mental health entrepreneurs and mobilizing key change agents to catalyze the scalable innovations and legislative changes needed to transform the future of student mental health literacy and access. Using this approach, we're working to make the impossible inevitable; helping build and scale lasting legislative changes and breakthrough organizations to be as impactful as Google and Facebook that...
Pearl Insurance has immediate openings for licensed, experienced commercial insurance agents primarily marketing professional liability insurance. We have offices in IL, KS & NY - however, this position could be completed anywhere in the U.S. from a 100% home-based office for qualified candidates. This is a full-time, inside sales position with salary + commission, benefits and provided leads. If you are driven, motivated and have a proven history of marketing commercial insurance then we need to talk. If you're tired of wondering "who am I going to call today?" or not having enough opportunities in your sales pipeline, this could be the perfect position for you! We are looking for candidates who excel in a fast paced, dynamic environment and are passionate about helping others while growing revenue. We are also proud to offer our employees a great benefits package: Medical Insurance w/ Health Savings Account Dental Insurance Vision Discount Plan Premium...
Oct 28, 2020
Full-Time
Pearl Insurance has immediate openings for licensed, experienced commercial insurance agents primarily marketing professional liability insurance. We have offices in IL, KS & NY - however, this position could be completed anywhere in the U.S. from a 100% home-based office for qualified candidates. This is a full-time, inside sales position with salary + commission, benefits and provided leads. If you are driven, motivated and have a proven history of marketing commercial insurance then we need to talk. If you're tired of wondering "who am I going to call today?" or not having enough opportunities in your sales pipeline, this could be the perfect position for you! We are looking for candidates who excel in a fast paced, dynamic environment and are passionate about helping others while growing revenue. We are also proud to offer our employees a great benefits package: Medical Insurance w/ Health Savings Account Dental Insurance Vision Discount Plan Premium...
Ignite Mental Health
Remote * (Bloomington, MN, USA)
Do you want to improve the world? Have you ever wondered what it would be like to join a driven, tight-knit community of highly-talented peers at a world-changing organization just as they started growing rapidly? Excited by the opportunity to power world-class entrepreneurs and Changemakers as they work to positively impact the lives of 100,000's & 1,000,000's? At Ignite Mental Health we're accelerating world-class mental health entrepreneurs and mobilizing key change agents to catalyze the scalable innovations and legislative changes needed to transform the future of student mental health literacy and access. Using this approach, we're working to make the impossible inevitable; helping build and scale lasting legislative changes and breakthrough organizations to be as impactful as Google and Facebook that focus solely on equipping every student with a standard measure of mental health literacy and access. All of us at Ignite have experienced first-hand, or through that of...
Oct 28, 2020
Part-Time
Do you want to improve the world? Have you ever wondered what it would be like to join a driven, tight-knit community of highly-talented peers at a world-changing organization just as they started growing rapidly? Excited by the opportunity to power world-class entrepreneurs and Changemakers as they work to positively impact the lives of 100,000's & 1,000,000's? At Ignite Mental Health we're accelerating world-class mental health entrepreneurs and mobilizing key change agents to catalyze the scalable innovations and legislative changes needed to transform the future of student mental health literacy and access. Using this approach, we're working to make the impossible inevitable; helping build and scale lasting legislative changes and breakthrough organizations to be as impactful as Google and Facebook that focus solely on equipping every student with a standard measure of mental health literacy and access. All of us at Ignite have experienced first-hand, or through that of...
